dating, pick up artistApril 10, 2008 10:22 pm

Of Alphas and Men

Chimpanzees are fiercely dominant and territorial.  There’s one alpha male who gets to have sex with pretty much everyone.  All the other males have to stay out of his way, if they’re even allowed to HANG OUT with the group.

It’s not unusual for the alpha male to literally squeeze the testicles off of a challenger.  Out of respect for the victims, I’m foregoing all ball-busting jokes here.

If you’re a female chimp, who do you think you’re going to wind up going for?  The alpha, who’ll at least take care of the group, or Mr. Soon-to-be-Castrated, who even if he has sex with you and gets you pregnant, those kids’ll just be killed by the alpha when they’re born?

The nature of the chimp selects those having sex with the alpha.  Eventually –with human rationalizing when you get to us – you go from HAVING to have sex with him to WANTING to.

Nice to know that we humans aren’t the only screwed-up things on the planet.

That sets the stage.

Of Orgies and Men

But then there’s also the bonobo monkey, a lesser-known primate that’s almost as close to us as chimps.  And these guys play with different rules.

They aren’t violent, for the most part.  They live in a matriarchal society, and there really ISN’T an alpha system like elsewhere in nature.  Instead, female bonobo have sex in exchange for protection and provisions.

Sometimes bonobo are literally having sex with the males holding bananas in their hands, promising to hand them over once they get their rocks off.

Sound familiar?

So which way are we programmed?  Both ways.

Women are turned on by dominant alpha men.  It triggers their lust, from all the THOUSANDS of years that women have had sex with dominant men.

And women are also turned on by men who can provide.  It triggers their nesting instinct, their need for security and protection and, um, food.

The bonobo have a problem though.  When you live in a world where women want monogamy AND it’s matriarchal AND gives a rational choice to the women about sex, merely showing yourself a provider isn’t going to work often.

The bonobo have sex all the time with everyone, so it can work.

How’s it all translate to us?

Humans don’t, so you wind up in a courtship that lasts months or years, with a woman who can always choose another provider.  You aren’t triggering her emotion, but her logic, as a bonobo male.

Plus, most women aren’t walking around hungry for a banana.  If only it were that easy.

The chimp alpha system, however, isn’t logical.  It’s primal.  Emotional.  And the underlying understanding of chimp society is women don’t have the choice.

They NEED to have sex with the alpha.

When you get to the complex level of humans, this need becomes ATTRACTION.

Alright, let’s bring it home.

If the thousands of years of evolution have conspired to make women attracted to dominant males, how do WE become that?

Aside from castrating others I mean.

CREATE social value in yourself

Believe it or not, the process is pretty simple.  And it all starts with relaxed confidence.  Remaining playful because you’re comfortable in your skin.  Secure in yourself.

Outside signs can be created, as well.  Become friendly with doormen, get to the point where you can say “Hey Jimmy” and walk past the throngs and through the velvet rope at a few clubs.

Get to know maitre-des who can bring you in through the kitchen to a table reserved at a hot hard-to-enter restaurant.

Sound hard to do?  It’s not – it just takes a little friendliness to the right people.  Become friends with them, and you get the preferential treatment that says you’re an alpha.

When you’re in a group, remember that YOUR opinion is the one that matters most.

That’s where a lot of people get messed up – they think the alpha has to be the focal point, because he often is.

THAT’S not the key, though.  Try too hard, and you come off as an insecure attention starved spotlight hog.  The point isn’t to be the LOUDEST or to say the MOST, but to have the trend-setting opinion, which starts with believing in yourself.  And NOT caring if others follow – they will, but not if they feel you forcing them.

If a scene-stealer comes in and tries to ruin your game, a simple eye roll and relocation – “Let’s go get a drink.” – is MUCH more powerful than entering into a limelight fight.  It says you’re confident, in control of the situation, AND in a position of power, from which you can communicate “This is no fun, let’s find something that is.”  You LEAD.  People will follow.

And you don’t have to maim a soul.

A LITTLE arrogance can communicate that power as well, much better than some Neanderthal brawl.

So how do you compete with the famous, and trigger the lust that their power does?

Make Your Circle

You create a circle within which YOU are a star.  You get the good table and the chef comes to it and makes off-the-menu dishes.  The DJ requests a request from you.  And your friends reinforce the aura of importance that travels around with you.

If you’re starting from scratch, it can take awhile to build a complete circle.  Once it’s there, though, women will respond to it.  POWERFULLY.

There’s nothing like being popular to increase popularity.

And the little ball busting you do is of the non-violent, playful variety.

From there, getting to WANT to translate your social value into sexual action is a MUCH simpler step.  ACT powerful, and you BECOME powerful.  And power on a man is sexy.

Derek Vitalio

 

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seduction, dating, pua, pick up artistMarch 19, 2008 3:39 pm

I have developed a theory on seducing girls that has been very efective lately.

Its Approaching Seduction as if you were to get a job.

You see this are very similar things. In the way that there is a screening process and a relation that you are building.

A lot of people dont even aspire to certain types of jobs just as many people dont even try to seduce certain types of chicks.

It Human Psychology at its finest.

for example i dont go searching for a job that im currently qualified for. I search for the Job I WANT.

Hows that you say?. Well if i really like a job and it requires 3 years experience in certain field. Guess what, now i hace 3 years experience on that field!

If it requires a masters degree well then i have a masters degree too!. I Basically convert myself in the person that they are looking for.

The same with women. Theres a catch tough, Only get into what you know you can handle. I.E if you are a salesman and want a manager position in your field(you are not going to say you are a doctor or astronaut smart ass

The whole purposse of this is to BECOME what the recruiter/chick Wants, rather than just trying all sorts of gizmos on her so she becomes attracted to you.

So there you have it, are you up to get the JOB DONE!?
Hope you liked this view of seduction!

By the way this works for a quick lay but not much for building multiple friend fucks unless you mantaing traits of your personality.

seduction, dating, pua, pick up artist 3:34 pm

If there’s one thing that’s all but universal when it comes to chicks and relationships, it’s drama. I don’t know a single guy, including myself, who’s ever had a drama-free relationship. You can mediate it and lessen it with relationship management skills, but it’s always there, bubbling under the surface and bursting forth every now and then. A lot of guys in the pickup community think that women LIKE drama, and that’s why they create it.

But the fact is, women aren’t men. They don’t sit there thinking, "Hmm, what can I do for fun today? I’m kinda bored. I know, I’ll create some drama!" Drama is, rather, a natural result of the relationship frame. You see, whether her man is an über-dominant alpha male or a passive pushover, he is still HER man, and until she leaves him completely, she looks to him to provide what she wants and needs from the relationship. And there is ALWAYS something she wants or needs that she isn’t getting – hence, drama.

I tend to think of romantic relationships as similar to parent-child relationships. Both love each other, and share many of the same, mutual goals. But both parties do tend to have a few conflicting goals. When the parent doesn’t get what he wants, he imposes punishments of various kinds to remind his daughter who is in charge and who needs to be respected. When the child doesn’t get what she wants, she pouts and complains and whines because she cannot FORCE her father to give her what she wants, and this is the next best way to do it – she has to hope he will give in – in effect though, she is still recognizing his power over her, because all she can do is HOPE that he will give in. He is the one who actually does or doesn’t. In a relationship, the man is like the father, and the woman is like the daughter. Even if he is weak, the man is still the man, and he holds the reins of the relationship.

So what do women want from men? It varies. Here are some typical kinds of men and what women want from them:

Secure, dominant male. Almost all of the woman’s needs are met, and she respects his authority because he is consistent and just in his approach to her and the relationship. Her needs are met and she knows what to expect from him. Drama is least frequent in this kind of relationship, and is reserved only for extreme situations when she feels desperate for something (like marriage, children, or exclusivity). These are the men women refer to as “great guys” and are fairly rare in general.

Insecure, dominant male. The woman’s needs for a strong man are met, and this provides a lot of value to her. His mistreatment of her makes her feel bad and confused ("Why does he treat me this way?"), so she gives him drama in the form of taking out pent up hurt feelings or asking him why he treats her so bad. What she wants from him is to remain dominant, yet treat her better. The trait that detracts from his value and incites drama here is his insecurity: secure males don’t put negativity on others regularly, so he is displaying his insecurities via his mistreatment of her.

Secure, non - dominant male. The woman knows he’s a great catch, and may be on the road to becoming the secure, dominant male someday. Basically, he’s a guy with "potential". He lacks relationship experience however, and what she wants from him is for him to step up, be a man, and lead. She will give him drama until he becomes more dominant and assertive. The trait that detracts from his value and incites drama in this instance is his non-dominance: it makes him seem less experienced, less strong/manly, and somewhat less desirable because of it.

Insecure, non - dominant male. The worst kind, comes in two flavors: jerks and nice guys. Both guys often have a lot of love-hate for women and feel bitter towards them (though not always). Jerks treat women like trash, but in a weak way. Passive aggressive-ism is common here. Nice guys are just way too nice, and let women get away with anything. What women want from both of these guys is to man up, LEAD, and treat them like human beings and not enemies or goddess-princesses. Women get very frustrated, very quick with these guys, and they will give tons and tons of drama to them, hoping that the man will put them in their place in a kind, fair way (though he hardly ever does). Sadly, a large number of men fall into this category.

Anyway, that’s a quick rundown. Basically, if she’s giving you drama, it’s almost always because she’s found a chink in your armor. She’s found somewhere that you aren’t being a secure, dominant male and she wants you to fix it. Just as little kids will whine and complain to get what they want if they sense you will give in to them or if you aren’t being fair (if you become inconsistent and/or deviate from precedence).

Note that you can usually expect drama early in a relationship as a girl feels you out, unless you make it totally abundantly clear from the outset what the relationship will be like and what your expectations for her are. It’s a natural process, as she discovers over a few months that you are different from the other guys she’s dated, and cements that impression of you into her brain.

Of course, women are fascinated by drama too. Stories about drama always satisfying their need for gossip and intrigue quite nicely - it allows them to find out more about their peer group. The flavor of drama a man gets from a woman, and how he deals with it, says a lot about the man - moreso about the man receiving the drama than the woman giving the drama, usually. Thus, having such stories relayed to them gives the female listeners an edge in calculating everyone’s (especially the males’) social ranking and value.

seduction, dating, pua, pick up artist 3:27 pm

Let’s have a discussion.

Here is a fictional conversation:

"What do you do?"
"I play hockey."
"I’m in a band."
"I’m a paramedic."
…"I study, practice, teach, and write articles on self improvement, with the ultimate goal of attracting and seducing beautiful women."

In my early days about two years go, I told a few of my friends about this site. I’ve had mixed reactions from friends about masf. Most showed slight interest, had a look, and then dropped it. I don’t hang with many of those friends these days.

I recently spoke on the phone to an old buddy, his girl cheated on him, he was hurt, and so I guided him to masf and explained some basic theory and philosophy. Skeptical at first, he listened to my experiences, acknowledged the truth and opened up to learning. I ended up giving him a seminar, and now he’s studying himself. He calls me his guru…haha, no, I am no guru. But a good teacher.

Many guys are in bands, players in sports teams, gaming clubs, gyms, etc. But for those that dedicate long hours to perfecting game, they tend to ostracize themselves from the majority of people with "normal" lifestyles. That is why we gravitate towards Lairs, and forums, so we might share our experiences, frustrations and joys, with the like minded.

True, it is not healthy to focus on only one aspect of life, but for those of you that have good pu skill, or maybe great skill, don’t you wish you could tell people about it? Those of you that spend all of your time focusing on the science of social dynamics, do you find yourself becoming alienated from anyone who is not good with women?

My question to you is, how open are you about this community and knowledge. How do you explain it to friends, and how have they reacted. How has it impacted your life? Let us share experiences, based on our varying levels of dedication to the craft.

"I took a woman for Zardoz." Sean Connery